You won’t find TLE’s for things that far out, and yes, admittedly, the Moon isn’t really a distant object (relatively speaking), since the SGP4 math tends to break down a bit when you get cislunar. It’s intended use for TLE/SGP4 is for objects who’s primary gravity influence is the Earth. Not saying it couldn’t be done… it’ll just get ugly (mathematically)
Given that, and if you’re familiar with the other mathematical forms of propagating orbital motion, if you want orbital elements, (and even pre-computed ephemerides) for stuff like this, check out the NASA-JPL HORIZONS system.
They’ve got a lot of items that you can “track” through their system. Even a certain “high mileage” Cherry-Red Roadster which recently made its first Mars flyby.
Just make sure to choose the correct frame of reference for what you’re looking to propagate.
For example, if you need to stay Earth(geo)-centric in order to have all the Cartesian {xyz} distances originate from the proper center of your scene (CesiumJS Earth-default), using either Inertial or Fixed frames of “rotation”, you need to specify it when querying HORIZONS. Keep in mind, that, depending on what you want, you may need to use the TELNET, or EMAIL “interfaces” for the system as the Web one is a little limited. But you can still get usable data to play with if you’re just poking around…
So, for example, looking for Cartesian (position-only, in km) coordinates for LRO, referenced to the Earth-centered, non-rotating (inertial, ICRF/J2000) frame, your web-request might look like this:
Ephemeris Type [change] : VECTORS
Target Body [change] : LRO (spacecraft) [-85]
Coordinate Origin [change] : Geocentric [500]
Time Span [change] : Start=2020-10-11, Stop=2020-11-10, Step=1 d
Table Settings [change] : quantities code=1; output units=KM-S
Display/Output [change] : default (formatted HTML)
and the results (for the time period specified) would look like this:
Revised: Oct 06, 2020 LRO Spacecraft / (Moon) -85
http://lro.gsfc.nasa.gov/
BACKGROUND:
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) was launched 2009-Jun-18 9:32 UTC
from Cape Canaveral, FL (USA) launch complex 41 on an Atlas V booster.
Following a 4-day transfer to the Moon and orbit insertion, the spacecraft
was placed in an elliptical low-circular polar orbit (~50 km) for a nominal
1-year mission.
LRO will return global data, such as day-night temperature maps, a global
geodetic grid, high resolution color imaging and the moon’s UV albedo.
There is emphasis on the polar regions of the moon where continuous access
to solar illumination may be possible and the prospect of water in the
permanently shadowed regions at the poles may exist.
It is possible there will be an extended mission as a communication
relay/south pole observing in a low-maintenance orbit.
PAYLOAD
Cosmic Ray Telescope for the Effects of Radiation (CRaTER)
Diviner Lunar Radiometer Experiment (DLRE)
Lyman Alpha Mapping Project (LAMP)
Lunar Exploration Neutron Detector (LEND)
Lunar Orbiter Laser Altimeter (LOLA)
Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC)
Mini-RF Technology Demonstration (Mini-RF)
SPACECRAFT PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS:
Built at Goddard Spaceflight Center (GSFC)
- One year primary mission in ~50 km polar orbit,
- LRO Total Mass ~ 1000 kg/400 W
- 100 kg/100W payload capacity
- 3-axis stabilized pointed platform (~ 60 arc-sec or better pointing)
- Articulated solar arrays and Li-Ion battery
- Spacecraft to provide thermal control services to payload elements
if req’d
- Ka-band high rate downlink ( 100-300 Mbps, 900 Gb/day),
S-band up/down low rate
- Centralized MOC operates mission and flows level 0 data to PI’s,
PI delivers high level data to PDS
- Command & Data Handling : MIL-STD-1553, RS 422, & High Speed Serial
Service, PowerPC Architecture, 200-400 Gb SSR, CCSDS
- Mono or bi-prop propulsion (500-700 kg fuel)
SPACECRAFT TRAJECTORY:
Updated irregularly (on Horizons) or by request.
Concatenated historical (reconstructed) trajectories are from PDS.
Last tracking data used was 2020-Jun-15, predicts thereafter.
Trajectory name Start (TDB) Stop (TDB)
Reconstructed trajectory 2009-Jun-18 22:16 2020-Jun-15 00:01
Concatenated predict updates 2020-Jun-15 00:01 2020-Oct-02 00:01
558day_20201002_01.V0.1 2020-Oct-02 00:01 2022-Apr-13 00:01
Results
Ephemeris / WWW_USER Sun Oct 11 11:39:51 2020 Pasadena, USA / Horizons
Target body name: LRO (spacecraft) (-85) {source: LRO_merged}
Center body name: Earth (399) {source: DE431mx}
Center-site name: BODY CENTER
Start time : A.D. 2020-Oct-11 00:00:00.0000 TDB
Stop time : A.D. 2020-Nov-10 00:00:00.0000 TDB
Step-size : 1440 minutes
Center geodetic : 0.00000000,0.00000000,0.0000000 {E-lon(deg),Lat(deg),Alt(km)}
Center cylindric: 0.00000000,0.00000000,0.0000000 {E-lon(deg),Dxy(km),Dz(km)}
Center radii : 6378.1 x 6378.1 x 6356.8 km {Equator, meridian, pole}
Output units : KM-S
Output type : GEOMETRIC cartesian states
Output format : 1 (position only)
EOP file : eop.201009.p201231
EOP coverage : DATA-BASED 1962-JAN-20 TO 2020-OCT-09. PREDICTS-> 2020-DEC-30
Reference frame : Ecliptic of J2000.0
JDTDB
X Y Z
$$SOE
2459133.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-11 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-1.872558549928991E+05 Y = 3.338478599422292E+05 Z = 2.201911051942506E+04
2459134.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-12 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-2.552028902940855E+05 Y = 2.762539368257181E+05 Z = 2.448025370648377E+04
2459135.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-13 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.103381854215282E+05 Y = 2.012200001610858E+05 Z = 2.903570470915393E+04
2459136.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-14 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.445752460051641E+05 Y = 1.169599408887235E+05 Z = 3.354881857755181E+04
2459137.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-15 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.572130335736924E+05 Y = 2.634243657388350E+04 Z = 3.202525045574431E+04
2459138.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-16 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.500946664630974E+05 Y =-6.904600369800912E+04 Z = 2.802509101320315E+04
2459139.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-17 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.198995572485509E+05 Y =-1.598907878340862E+05 Z = 2.641609618887554E+04
2459140.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-18 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-2.661327205037826E+05 Y =-2.373297516926450E+05 Z = 2.192169292127897E+04
2459141.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-19 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-1.965308394942695E+05 Y =-3.005302653904042E+05 Z = 1.221432544760990E+04
2459142.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-20 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-1.168839362748947E+05 Y =-3.472062965457683E+05 Z = 4.250165435539544E+03
2459143.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-21 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-2.789648554536756E+04 Y =-3.703486243409183E+05 Z =-1.152704569339316E+03
2459144.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-22 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 6.403963779197253E+04 Y =-3.699587664459984E+05 Z =-1.000033353527245E+04
2459145.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-23 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 1.495454887748730E+05 Y =-3.514455972388059E+05 Z =-1.991470836601823E+04
2459146.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-24 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 2.265541586177443E+05 Y =-3.148110725661243E+05 Z =-2.464779772810520E+04
2459147.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-25 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 2.947945274536718E+05 Y =-2.589902946249947E+05 Z =-2.789681075222258E+04
2459148.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-26 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 3.481153846112498E+05 Y =-1.902987506807717E+05 Z =-3.378525079523170E+04
2459149.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-27 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 3.821060819217266E+05 Y =-1.152919925256702E+05 Z =-3.719943038547444E+04
2459150.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-28 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 3.996284119072505E+05 Y =-3.380370701840784E+04 Z =-3.496712617062499E+04
2459151.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-29 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 4.013968810955017E+05 Y = 5.200342337894350E+04 Z =-3.324716977648624E+04
2459152.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-30 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 3.833129565512872E+05 Y = 1.339551542658205E+05 Z =-3.320994764338039E+04
2459153.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Oct-31 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 3.462919000100381E+05 Y = 2.079315577195302E+05 Z =-2.860618502278755E+04
2459154.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-01 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 2.965720539325188E+05 Y = 2.752208208832641E+05 Z =-2.046370892174821E+04
2459155.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-02 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 2.347400982087330E+05 Y = 3.315686978693219E+05 Z =-1.516067238945450E+04
2459156.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-03 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 1.596450568847337E+05 Y = 3.702454429189516E+05 Z =-1.027548655125973E+04
2459157.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-04 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X = 7.729827657539400E+04 Y = 3.916192548495938E+05 Z =-7.040119546061615E+02
2459158.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-05 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-5.515397379001709E+03 Y = 3.977576942491861E+05 Z = 8.565562067851017E+03
2459159.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-06 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-8.869303036726605E+04 Y = 3.844252041694800E+05 Z = 1.343180296310293E+04
2459160.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-07 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-1.700070553049038E+05 Y = 3.494519721587826E+05 Z = 1.914445599437825E+04
2459161.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-08 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-2.408513065676688E+05 Y = 2.980472269962225E+05 Z = 2.742459424615985E+04
2459162.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-09 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-2.967217250269887E+05 Y = 2.331741002282003E+05 Z = 3.168207806446435E+04
2459163.500000000 = A.D. 2020-Nov-10 00:00:00.0000 TDB
X =-3.383659675741391E+05 Y = 1.534269192458592E+05 Z = 3.138654165956306E+04
$$EOE
Coordinate system description:
Ecliptic at the standard reference epoch
Reference epoch: J2000.0
X-Y plane: adopted Earth orbital plane at the reference epoch
Note: obliquity of 84381.448 arcseconds (IAU76) wrt ICRF equator
X-axis : ICRF
Z-axis : perpendicular to the X-Y plane in the directional (+ or -) sense
of Earth's north pole at the reference epoch.
Symbol meaning:
JDTDB Julian Day Number, Barycentric Dynamical Time
X X-component of position vector (km)
Y Y-component of position vector (km)
Z Z-component of position vector (km)
Geometric states/elements have no aberrations applied.
Computations by …
Solar System Dynamics Group, Horizons On-Line Ephemeris System
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Information : https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/
Documentation: Horizons System
Connect : Horizons System (browser)
telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775 (command-line)
e-mail command interface available
Script and CGI interfaces available
Author : Jon.D.Giorgini@jpl.nasa.gov
which would be the bare-bones “points to plot” if you prefer not to do propagation math. Similarly you could just request Keplerian elements, again choosing the proper frames of reference, and approach things that way.
it’s a fun system to play with. Enjoy !!
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